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by CrazyInKy » Tue Sep 05, 2017 7:45 am

Hello, I'm new to this website which I came across while trying to research meds at the request of my pdoc. I was officially diagnosed with bipolar/mania a few months ago. I have been on antidepressants since I was 17 or 18. Antidepressants also are what I believe was causing my manic episodes, and many bad life decisions lol.

It was me who went to the Dr and said enough enough, this isn't working, something else is going on. After setting up an appointment for me with the local pdoc, he immediately put me on lamictal. I have since had manic episodes (not as severe as in the past) and suffered days of depression. Some days I have felt like maybe I'm completely sane and I'm OK and just over exaggerating normal mood swings. Idk. Idk what to tell my pdoc when I go back. He upped my lamictal to 100 mg a day till I have my next appointment.

Did I mention I have 3 kids that I believe contribute to may anger and irritability more often than not? I know that sounds horrible but I would love to feel in control and not have these feelings, especially about my own children. I have anxiety (pdoc says no, just trauma from my childhood, teen years, and etc) and paranoia sometimes.I feel like I'm currently in a state of depression. Actually I know I am. I just don't know if its BC of recent events or my disorder.

I would love to become a successful, functioning adult. Any advice is more than welcome, that's why I'm here! Also any recommendation on drug or drug combos would be greatly appreciated. Tia and I look forward to getting to know the community.
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by AvantGarde » Tue Sep 05, 2017 7:52 am

Hi Inky, welcome.

I would really advise you to search for a therapist (tdoc) so you can learn how to navigate the mood swings better, deal with the trauma, and especially with the remaining symptoms like irratibility and anger (those can stem from both the trauma and the BP).

Like we say around here, the only way to tackle BP is with meds and therapy.

Lamictal usually works great and with few side effects. Meds do work differently for everybody so it's difficult to say what might work for you. There are pages online where you can search for medications just for BP, and go over them with your pdoc (psychiatrist). I do think the dose of lamictal you're on is still low, given you have manic episodes, but your pdoc surely knows how to taper.
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by Spm24 » Tue Sep 05, 2017 8:03 am

CraziInKy,

Welcome to the forum. You will find many caring and compassionate people here.

Many of us can not take antidepressants.

Tell your pdoc the truth. That you still have manic and depressive. At times I feel like it is just my imagination. But I can look back and see how bad I was. Lamictal has had a good effect on but I am taking four hundred mgs. As AG said it is on the low level.

Events that happen in our lives or around us can have a contributing factor to our moods. So yes it can trigger sn episode.

Do you see a tdoc? They help learn coping skills that can help immensely...
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by Stuckles » Tue Sep 05, 2017 8:08 am

Welcome CrazyInky,

Being involved in your treatment and letting them know how you feel, like you did, is very important. I have difficulty with paranoia and anxiety as well. It's a lot better now than what it used to be but I was also in a constant state of depression so to speak.

I take Lamitor (Lamictal) and it does help a lot for me.
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by CrazyInKy » Tue Sep 05, 2017 8:14 am

We have a therapist at my local clinic, and call me wrong, but I am begrudging of her BC I feel like she helped enable on of my worse manic episodes a little over a year ago. She was also supposed to be helping my general doctor diagnose any underlying problems or issues of my "depression". She didn't. That's a story for another time though.
Anyways, my pdoc tried to prescribe latuda and abilify but my insurance (medicaid) wouldn't cover it. Also, I have had a aggravating time getting anything from the pharmacy BC of lack of communication between the pharmacy and my clinic. It leads to me having to make calls back and forth to relay messages of meds not being approved, needing a PA, or he/she said to try whatever instead. When he called last week to discuss the abilify not being covered I told him I had upped my dosage of lamictal myself, which led him to call me in a higher dosage pill. He also said to do research on depekote, topimax, and whatever other drugs I came across. All sound like they have considerable side effects but I'm realizing thats just the name of the bipolar game apparently. One of the biggest side effects that I'm trying to avoid is weight gain due to struggles especially after baby #3.
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by hal » Tue Sep 05, 2017 1:57 pm

Glad to have you here, CrazyInKy.

Your pdoc asking you to research meds sounds weird to me. Is it just him/her, or is it due to Medicaid?

We do have a lot of experience with meds but, as mentioned before, we're not qualified medical professionals. Certainly, people have different experiences with the different ones. But stick around here: we're understanding and supportive and friendly. :)
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by CrazyInKy » Wed Sep 20, 2017 2:15 pm

I have been beyond busy and some how got even busier since my last post. It's been very overwhelming and I've flip flopped from being depressed to manic it seems every other day and even starting high/low and finishing the day the complete opposite. Since I was here last I have talked to my pdoc on the phone once and he called me in a refill for lamotrigine in a 100 mg pill. I will be out before the weekend and I still haven't left a message for what I want to try. All I know is that the lamotrigine isn't working for me. He told me on the phone to continue researching different drugs but I'm still lost. I don't have another face to face appt with him till mid November. I'm certain one of the drugs he mentioned was topomax but Idk if that should be with the Lamictal or by itself. Maybe I just need a higher dose of lamictal? Idk. I'm exhausted not only from my very demanding schedual, being home by myself while my partner is out of state working, and most of all my emotions being all over the spectrum. I am just tired.
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by Spm24 » Thu Sep 21, 2017 1:13 pm

Maybe you should get him to call in your script before you run out. It has to be overwhelming to try and decide on your own without input from your pdoc. You really need input from the pdoc as to what needs to be done... It took me all the way up to 400 mgs of lamictal/lamotrigine daily till I started to stabilize. Just my experience. If that helps you any...
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by dubious66 » Thu Sep 21, 2017 4:54 pm

Pdoc having you research meds as a newbie is...interesting. I think you said you were on Medicare/Medicaid. Sometimes those programs will approve generics but not name brands. Did you ask the pharmacy about the generic form? (Generics can have some issues based on the extra stuff that is them, but the active ingredient is the same.) Don't know if that will work, but an atypical antipsychotic seemed to be what your pdoc was trying to do and those can help with (hypo)manic symptoms.

Like others said, the lamictal dosage is on the lighter side. I didn't see any impact when I was taking it until I hit 400 and I was on other stuff too; but we're all different.
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by AvantGarde » Thu Sep 21, 2017 9:59 pm

Oh, don't switch from brand name to generic or generic brand to generic brand without your pdoc's oversight. It can cause complications, it did with me. There's a thread about it somewhere.

I would bring him the big three (Lithium, Valproate, increase Lamictal) and ask what he thinks about either adding or switching all together.
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by Mocha » Fri Sep 22, 2017 7:50 am

Inky, Personally I think your pdoc is an idiot. Telling you to research meds so you could tell him which ones you want to take. What kind of shit is that..... :evil: He's supposed to be the pdoc. You don't know anything about pharmacology.

He's supposed to be treating the symptoms you've presented with, and that he doesn't seem to be doing. Instead he seems to be leaving it up to you.....If I'm understanding correctly.

. Also, I have had a aggravating time getting anything from the pharmacy BC of lack of communication between the pharmacy and my clinic. It leads to me having to make calls back and forth to relay messages of meds not being approved, needing a PA, or he/she said to try whatever instead. When he called last week to discuss the abilify not being covered I told him I had upped my dosage of lamictal myself, which led him to call me in a higher dosage pill. He also said to do research on depekote, topimax, and whatever other drugs I came across.

What a fucking mess. First of all, never up your dose of Lamictal on your own..It has to be a really slow taper. And I just can't get over him telling you to research drugs you came across.....jeeze.......

Can't you get another pdoc? This one is def not qualified. There are many mood stabilizers out there that could treat your symptoms, but you're no expert. That's what the pdoc is for.


*And this is where AG and I have to agree to disagree........I've never had a problem switching from brand name to generic. All my meds are generic, but used to be brand name. The only ones I can tell the difference in are the benzos. The brand names are way better.

And thyroid meds are a little different in that if you start on generic brand, you should always stay on generic........but if you start on brand name, you have to stay on brand name. Doesn't matter which one you start on, just stick with it.

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by AvantGarde » Fri Sep 22, 2017 7:56 am

There are studies about it, it's not an opinion of mine, some pdocs are concerned about it others aren't. I never had issues with benzos brand or generic :P We're paradoxical
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by Mocha » Fri Sep 22, 2017 12:30 pm

AvantGarde wrote: I never had issues with benzos brand or generic :P We're paradoxical

Girl, the name brand benzos are so so good.....yummy........:lol:

But who can afford them.....:roll:

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